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I heard this morning that a Catholic adoption charity lost it's case in the UK to deny gay/lesbian couples the right to adopt. There was a related Have Your Say on the topic and I couldn't resist and went and read the comments (I gotta stop doing that, some of those people....*shakes head in disgust*) Anyway, I was actually surprised that so far, most seemed to support the ruling and agreed that religion should not be above the law, which in this case would be that no one has the right to discriminate against others based on their sexuality.

Doesn't mean that there weren't people opposed, but I found those people tended to make sweeping generalisations about gays/lesbians, which happens to be a debating pet peeve of mine. I hate generalised statements because they often paint people wrongly who don't deserve it. Comments like this would apply:

The UN convention on the rights of the child.
Article 21....Adoption....the first concern must be what is best for them.
Article 12.....Respect the views of the child. Children have the right to have their views heard.
Article 3....Best interests of the child. this should be the primary concern when making decisions that affect them.
Article 2.....Non Discrimination.....No child should be treated unfairly on any basis.
These should be respected when placing a child in the care of others. Their rights MUST come first. I contend that a same sex couple is NOT in the best interests of the child if we apply the above conventions.

 
Generalised and a slap in the face to any gay couple wanting to adopt. I'm sorry where's the evidence that a same sex couple would do anything other than what's best for the child in question? Any evidence? No? Plenty of evidence that heterosexual couples often don't do what's best in the interest of the child, things like child abuse are most often commited by parents or close relatives and yes, those parents are often hetero. I saw another comment saying that the happiness of the child must come first and the desires of homosexuals to have children shouldn't count. Huh? Yet more generalisations that homosexuals are incapable of providing a child with a happy, healthy upbringing without a shred of evidence to support it. I saw another comment about allowing gays/lesbians to adopt would be akin to indoctrinating children to think homosexuality is ok, to the erosion of moral values in this country, or some tripe like that. I didn't pay much attention to that one.

This idea of some that gay/lesbian parents are incapable of providing a well-round, happy upbringing for a child who desperately needs a loving home......I can't fathom it. When you look at it really, homosexual couples can't be any worse than heterosexual couples at raising children and from what I've seen of it, are often much better parents than many heterosexual couples. There's loads of heteros out there who are terrible parents, can't or don't want to provide for the child, are too self-interested, or mistreat their children.

The laws made to govern us are secular for a reason, to prevent the forcing of religious views on others' whose views differ from their own. Forcing your religious views on others is just plain and simple intolerance and disrespect for that other person. Something that ties into this would be Catholic hospitals in the US, which I had a little rant about a few days ago, but that's beside the point here.

Gay and lesbian couples are no worse at parenting than any heterosexual couple out there and they should be afforded all the same rights to adopt that are given to heteros. it's called tolerance and equality. I just can't get along with anyone who says that homosexuals are abnormal and would be bad parents based on that alone.

Edit> I've just seen a comment that takes the cake, a claim that any same sex couple wanting to adopt are selfish. OMG, wth?! I swear my jaw just dropped. Unbelievable, how in god's name does wanting to provide a child with a loving home make them selfish. Dear Jebus, sometimes I despair of some sections of humanity. *shakes head*

Date: 19/8/10 19:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quixotic-crush.livejournal.com
Why are the majority of politicians and lawmakers ignorant homophobes?

Date: 19/8/10 19:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nimeth-nimora.livejournal.com
Because many of them, particularly in the US, have been bought off by the religious right (the real nutters I mean, I've seen some religious Christians who are actually ok with homosexuality) and they feel they have to bow down to whoever lines their pockets. Nevermind that some of them have been caught engaging in homosexual behaviour, the dirty hypocrites. But that too, is a whole other ton of baggage.

I find that it's less so in the UK, many of our MPs are themselves openly gay and no one bats an eyelid.

Date: 19/8/10 21:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marsuk.livejournal.com
Urgh Seriously how can they say 'that same sex couples are not in the best interests for the child.
I am all for in the best intrests for the child though but this is simply discrimination.
The child is more likely to end up in the wrong hands by disallowing same sex couples aswell.

Date: 19/8/10 21:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nimeth-nimora.livejournal.com
Well that's a rather blanket statement on their part, whoever they were. I assume part of it is something to do with homosexuals supposedly 'rubbing off' their gayness on the child. Total rubbish, that.

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